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Cool and
Dre Keep The Beat Going
4/19/05 - LatinRapper.com
exclusive interview
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Miami-based
producer's Cool & Dre continue to make their mark on the
production world. The duo first topped charts with
Ja Rule’s – “New York”, followed by Terror Squad’s -
“Take me Home” single and continue to shine with the
“Hate it or Love it” single featuring 50 Cent and The
Game, the number one track on Billboard. Success
has not slowed down for Cool & Dre, whose upcoming
projects include collaborations with Mary J. Blige, 3LW,
P. Diddy, Mos Def, Q-Tip, Slim Thug, Mase and Joe
Buddens. They are also continuing their work on
Dirtbag’s album, the premiere artist on their imprint
label Epidemic Music.
The duo have
also recently opened La Dea restaurant and lounge in
South beach with co investors with Usher and Big Boi of
Outkast. Cool took a break between studio sessions
to speak with LatinRapper about their string of success
in our exclusive interview.
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LatinRapper.com: How did you guys get into the
production game together?
Me and Dre met up in high school, we did the whole
chorus thing. Dre was in the chorus, I was the DJ, we
got into the whole music thing. We were an R&B group
called Basic Unity, we tried to do the four-man group
thing for a while, that didn't work out. In ‘96 we
couldn't really find no one to do no tracks for our
group, so we had an idea, why don't we get some
equipment, put out our own beats. We saved up, bought an
ASR10 keyboard, started doing our production, trying to
get it tight, figure out the machines. That's how we got
started, know what I'm saying. Progressing, putting our
money where our mouth is and getting some equipment.
Many people recognize you as producers, but you're
also hook writers, who are some of the artists that
you've graced with a hook?
Both of us do the writing, but Dre, he sings most of the
hooks too, which is dope. He'll reference a whole song,
we don't need to bring someone in to sing a song, Dre
can sing the whole R&B record. From Mary J Blige, Fat
Joe, for Trina. Nowadays, everyone we do a track for, we
present a hook. Makes the job easier for the artist.
Like New York New York, Take Me Home, that was Dre on
that hook, and a bunch of other stuff.
What production equipment is essential to a session
of beatmaking at the studio?
Dre likes to use the 1000. We heard about the 1000, we
each copped one. He still likes using it, I use the
2000, either machine we use at any given moment. But the
heart of it is the 1000 or 2000, we use the Motif 3S7,
ASR10, bunch of modules like the Roland, Vintage Pros,
Proteus 2000, we got a bunch of different modules. And
of course we have an extensive sound library that we've
built throughout the years of working.
Do you guys play any other instruments?
Nah, mainly keyboard, but we got Dave Cabrera, any
guitar work we need, we bring him in. If we need some
extensive keys, we got an extensive keyboard player or
piano player for that. We got a bunch of different
musicians that we got in different cities. We can call
and be like, "yo we coming in to L.A., just be on call."
It seems as though things kicked off when Fat Joe
brought you on board to do a few tracks for Tony
Sunshine, how did you make that connect in the first
place?
Through our man Robbie Rob in Miami, he hollered at us
like "Yo man, Joe's lookin' for some beats." ‘Cause Joe
don't care if it's a big producer, no name producer,
long as its hot. Robbie Rob said Joe wants the Down
South stuff, so we put like 50 beats on the CD for Rob.
Joe came across the craziest beat he ever heard, R Kelly
was recording We Thuggin', and Joe says "Pop in that
CD". He said "I like beat number 30," and King of New
York was born on Jealous One's Envy. King of New York
with Buju Banton. He told us he heard that record, and
said "I gotta meet the kids that made that record,
because I cant believe they from Miami." He came down,
every time he came down we would hook up. The way the
Tony Sunshine thing came across, he said "Y'all do that
R&B stuff, I got my artist Tony Sunshine, give me some
beats for him." So we did a record for him, Joe
said "that's kinda hot," then we did this one record
"Dedication", dedicated to Big Pun. It really touched
everyone, and with that record he let the president of
Loud [Records] Steve Rifkind hear it. And Steve said, "Yo,
let these kids do the whole Tony Sunshine album."
Joe and Tony like brothers from another mother, Joe has
played a really instrumental role in our career, we owe
a lot to him.
Tony Sunshine's album has been on the backburner for
a while now, any chance that we'll get to hear your
production on that by this year's end?
This what's goin on... What hapened was, he was signed
to Loud Records, then Loud lost their deal. He ended up
labelless. We said, yo, lets get our name to some
level, and make things happen. So we did this deal with
Jive, a joint deal with Epidemic, and we put him on our
label. And we signed him, we did a joint venture
with Fat Joe. That didn't really work out because Jive
couldn't really understand Tony. They couldn't
understand how a Spanish kid was doing R&B. We did
a record, but they didn't really push it. So he's in the
process of closing a deal with Sony. The album is crazy,
everyone from Rich Harrison, to Cool and Dre, Scott
Storch, R. Kelly did a joint on there. You'll
definitely see a Tony Sunshine album this year, whether
through a major or we have to put it out ourselves, its
comin' out (laughs). Gonna be a single in the next two
months.
You hooked up the beat for Ja Rule's "New York",
"Take Me Home" for Fat Joe and T.S., and produced the #1
hit "Hate it or Love it" with 50 and Game. There wasn't
any friction handling production for beefing artists
like that?
Nah, 'cause it was like, Joe's not the type of artist
like... When that went down there was really no
problems. When we found out it was on Game album,
Joe didn't really have a problem with those guys. Joe
was like, "Damn y'all on game album, good looks." Joe
wasn't the type of person to be like, "I have problem
with them, don't sell the beat to them" Joe was like,
"That's a big record for y'all."
There comes a time when a certain producer or
production team become the go-to guys everyone has to
have. Swizz, Timbaland, Neptunes, Scott Storch. Do you
feel you've reached that level, or is there still a ways
to go?
I think right now, like Cool and Dre, we here. We been
bubbling up, we been under the bubble for a few years,
people say them cats coming up. Then the Ja Rule album
came out, not only was it a big record in radio, it kind
of brought Ja Rule back. Not only that, we have two kids
from Miami giving New York an album. Then "Take Me
Home" came out, not as big as New York, but they making
noise around the same time. Then comes "Hate it or Love
it", its such a monster. Now we here, Cool and Dre,
Epidemic, its starting now. Like right now, we're here,
we're stamped as one of those go-to guys now, for the
simple fact that we been in the game working so long,
people have their eyes on us, we came through now. We
got cats that are hot, never seen a number one. I told
Dre, damn that's like getting Superbowl ring (laughs),
it's a blessing, know what I mean.
Who were the producers that inspired you guys as you
honed your craft?
I have to say, first is whole Outkast, Organized Noize,
we followed their music. We got that first
Southernplaysiticaddillacmuzik, and was like, yo, 'cause
they were samplin but they had live music in their beats
as well. Their live music didn't sound like jazz,
'cause when you use live instrumentation, musicians
don't use direction, but their stuff was still grimy and
dirty and the way they used their samples. We
modeled our production on them. Dr Dre, Timbaland,
huge inspirations.
Goodie MOB's debut album has incredible production,
it was such a fresh sound when they came out.
Absolutely. And you know, you got sounds like Wheels of
Steel, Atliens album, you got the scratching, live bass.
Two Dope Boys in a Cadillac, Soul Food, it was crazy, we
really really listened to those guys, we looked up to
those guys as producers. Then the En Vogue sh*t, then
they did Waterfalls, we said that's what we wanna do
(laughs). Then you got the Chronic album, wow, Timbaland
with Aaliyahs album, wow, major inspiration.
Whose putting out the hottest beats at the moment?
Scott Storch. Scott Storch is banging them over the head
right now. Kanye west, he's crazy, you got Lil Jon,
Timbo, Rich Harrison, crazy with it. Just Blaze,
Neptunes, I think those are the top guys, just glad to
be a part of those names.
Is there anyone that you'd like to produce for but
haven't yet?
We just produced with someone we always say we wanted to
produce for, Mary J Blige. A month and a half, two
months ago, we produced one record and we had the
privilege of co-producing another with her, and Dre sang
the hook with her. Recently, she sang over Hate it or
Love it, I don't know if you heard it yet. I don't know
how she managed to sing over that beat, but wow... she
gave us a shout on the end, too. For her to give you a
shout out, that's such a great look, thank God we pretty
much working with her. Some work with Snoop, who
else... We'd love to put the whole Goodie MOB
together. The whole original Goodie MOB, and do a real
real Goodie MOB album, some Soul Food Pt 2. That would
be something we'd love to do.
Do you ever feel like Miami producers are unjustly
pigeonholed as only making boody music or crunk joints?
I wouldn't say right now, I think a few years ago, cats
wasn't really looking back to Miami. Go to Miami to get
hot beat. Couple cats did hot beats, then you got
Red Spyda, Usual Suspects, now the limelight is coming
to Miami. Like, "Miami got beats? Cool and Dre, we
gotta check these guys out." At one point they
were, but thank God we been a part of that like putting
it so cats weren't really looking at Miami as just
popping bottles, go to the club, but going to Miami to
get some hits.
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